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Xian Zhu Xuande
ParticipantOh wow? so I assume you are basically going through it without the slightest idea of what is going on? No matter, as long as the game is still fun. Does your strategy guild provide a dolt such as myself with the ability to navigate the game contents and find my way through? :)
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ParticipantTaishi Ci said:
When you finish, can I interest you in playing DOAE3 Genesis?
Now which one was that? The RPG-style or the RTK-style?
I?m trying to kill Sima Yi before I have to pick up my kids. Haha?
Xian Zhu Xuande
ParticipantI?m on my way! :)

And yeah, so far Wei hasn?t been too bad. Sima Yi will present the tough battles.
Xian Zhu Xuande
ParticipantDefeated Chen Pu!

I didn?t really think too much about the ability to ditch Zhang Bao until just recently, and looking at that party lineup you are suggesting, it is a damn good idea. I would love to be able to go into battle with that team. Oh well, next time through I?ll arrange something of that sort. This time around I?ll just have to suffer with a team a little more focused on heavy hitting (which is what I?ve always been used to anyway). I?ve actually learned a few new tricks in the game playing this little challenge. :)
I?m not going to go after the Pirate force either. I originally thought of it, but I decided against it.
When I?m done, I?m going to post the challenge on KMA?perhaps modified to include a few solid rules such as the ones you have been following. Mind holding on to your screenshots and letting me use a few for the feature? With An Sha, Wei should be quite a bit easier to manage. :)
Xian Zhu Xuande
ParticipantI have been counting down the moments to An Sha. :)
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Participantlordyuanshu said:
As for Po Yang, well, I was careless the first few times I guess. First of all I did it with Ma Su in my party because I forgot to substitute in Guan Xing (I never even got Zhang Bao – a good thing in my mind). Anyway, I basically took turns using Li Jian (Ma Liang – strategist) on Chen Pu and Zhang Zhao to neutralize them with a Chi Tu Ma-equipped Zhuge. Bu Xi was basically worthless.
Nice?good idea. I am fighting them again now with Zhuge Liang as my strategist, and I suspect I might very well wind up dead again. Having Li Jiang or Yi Xin makes a big difference in battles like this, and I have neither?I have Tui Lu. (As a matter of fact, after typing that, I used Tui Lu to escape, and went back to Cheng Du to set myself up with a different party.)
I like Zhang Bao simply because he has a heavy hitter and has the soldiers to support his attacks, but at these low levels he has been giving me grief. I actually took Ma Dai out of my party so I had a few intelligent people around, but now I?m rethinking that as well. I think I?ll replace him with Ma Chao or Huang Zhong. I?m tired of being beaten on by the likes of Hong Shui. Hehe.
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ParticipantI?m looking forward to finding out the way in which they support ROMs.
Since I heard about that backward compatibility, I have been imagining playing Destiny of an Emperor 1/2 on the good old Revolution. I gave up on trying to have a working Nintendo. It seems every time I come across one, it breaks before too long, and they are also getting too expensive. :)
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ParticipantOh wow? it sounds like your version of the game is very different?
I?m curious after all your comments about it. Where could I get a copy of the game?
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I think I?m not going to fight the Pirate Force. Make the game harder, and increase my chances of arriving to face Sima Yi at the lowest possible level. I can pretty much guess if I have missed it knowing the rough estimate of experience from battles with L? Bu and Pang Tong. I do have to admit?Pang Tong was a help.
But now? I?m facing Chen Pu, and I have lost Yi Xin. All I can do is pray that Zhang Zhao doesn?t used Ji Mian and Chen Pu doesn?t use Ji Rou too early in the battle. At least they can?t cast Hong Shui? thank the heavens.
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ParticipantAnd I just got slaughtered by Zhuge Jin? Haha?
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And additional clarification. When I envisioned the challenge I did picture it including battles like Lu Bu, Pang Tong, and the Pirate Force. I can see how this might be a little confusing given the original wording. Though, in retrospect, not including those battles, aside from the difficulty of the battles themselves, would increase the game difficulty a little.
I guess that is a good thing to add as one of the challenge?s options.
Xian Zhu Xuande
ParticipantHi qidpo! :D
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So you beat Zhou Yu? How did you do it?
I just finished the battle, and here?s some screenshots and an explanation.

Though I am happy to still have Ji Rou (I wonder how soon I?ll lose it; I know I?ve been here with Ji Rou many times before) I was secretly hoping for an easy way out like An Sha. I guess I won?t get that for a few level-ups to come. I got an idea when I saw Yi Xin, though. I took Ma Chao out of my party (though in all honesty Zhang Bao may have been better taken out?he is a mixed blessing in this battle) and added Pang Tong. I gave Pang Tong the good ol? Chi Tu Ma.
Round 1
At the start of the battle, I had Pang Tong cast Yi Xin on Zhou Yu. I didn?t expect this to work too easily, and I knew if it failed a good Ji Mian or An Sha could spell death for my party. I expected to have to come back a few times. No need, though, Pang Tong went first and nailed Zhou Yu. All my other party members used Bei Ji on themselves.
Round 2
The next round I had Pang Tong use Bei Ji on himself, and everyone else used Power Pills on Zhou Yu. Zhou Yu broke out of Yi Xin, but he was under 1,000 soldiers?well within the range of any of my officers. I had Pang Tong cast Hong Shui to try and get him (not sure if he could take down 800 soldiers) and everyone else used Power Pills again. Pang Tong missed, but Zhou Yu died on the next attack. Everyone proceeded to tear into Gu Yong.
Round 3
I went all-out. I got hit with a really nasty water tactic in the process, but the battle ended quickly. In retrospect, Li Jian and Hong Shui, combined with the thought of facing Zhou Yu again, should have been reason enough not to go all-out at all. He?s defeated though, so it is on to the next battle. :)
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Was Pang Tong needed?
Nah, probably not, but I?m sure having him around makes this battle much easier. The only other person who could be used to take this approach well is Zhuge Liang. It would be quite a bit harder with the somewhat lower intelligence of the Ma brothers, for example. Here?s the catch: Zhuge Liang?s agility isn?t too hot, and he doesn?t go first (even with Chi Tu Ma) much compared to people like Guan Xing. Pang Tong?s higher agility and great intelligence make him ideal for this battle. Still, Zhuge Liang would be more successful with Yi Xin.
What else is necessary?
You will want to have Battleaxes for everyone except for your best warrior, who should have the Scimitar found in the previous city. Having top-tier weapons makes all the difference in this battle, where a single round can pretty much spell the death of your entire party (who am I kidding?it would far more often than not).
Xian Zhu Xuande
ParticipantAnd going back, to be more specific, I have all the soundtracks from I to X.
I probably have XI somewhere too, though I forget exactly where?
Xian Zhu Xuande
ParticipantHehe? all the ideas I can think of for that stage involve Pang Tong?
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Participantlordyuanshu said:
This is good stuff. I’m at the Xu Shou/Wen Hun/Yan Liang gate.
I have been playing my game without Power Pills. I got smacked around hard on that battle.
(I?m not sure I?ll be playing without power pills come time to face Ma Chao or Zhou Yu.)
I just finished my battle with Yuan Shao. :)
Xian Zhu Xuande
ParticipantI’m playing Destiny of an Emperor again. Mostly because I don?t have a save file on my computer to snatch random screenshots from anymore, but in part because I have always wanted to try something. As I mentioned in another thread, I only fight battles that are absolutely necessary up until I get Zhuge Liang. I was wondering, though. Would it be possible to beat the game this way? Reach Sima Yi on the lowest possible level? I?m going to see if I can do it now.
If anyone wants to try it out with me, here are the rules.
Destiny of an Emperor Challenge
1) You must only fight battles that cannot be avoided.
(No hiring officers, no saving up experience.)
2) You can choose between the two different Zhang Jao battles
3) You can hire Han Zhong.
4) You can hire L? Bu.
5) You should execute Yuan Shu.
(Although a certain person here can spare him, I suppose?)
6) You can fight and hire Pang Tong. *
7) You can fight and kill L? Bu in Ba-Shu. *
8) You can fight the Pirate Force in Wu. *
9) You must not fight special in-city battles (e.g. Ma Yuan Yi or L? Meng).
10) If running an emulator, no freeze/defrost or rewind features. No field saves.
* Though these three choices are available for this challenge, doing so may not allow you to reach Sima Yi at the ?lowest possible? level. If you wish to reach Sima Yi at the lowest possible level, you should skip these events?or at least the Pirate Force, which provides the most experience.
Decrease Difficulty:
1) You may fight three field battles to hire three officers.
(You must restart if you don?t hire the officer in question.)
Increase challenge to insane difficulty:
1) You cannot use Power Pills.
(Good luck?)
Advice
If you are going to pull this off, be careful. Save your gold because it is precious. You won?t have enough to buy everything you want, and there will be a few items (like the Silver Key) that you need, but won?t be able to get, if you buy equipment instead. Plan ahead. If you will get items in a cave, don?t buy them sooner. Think of creative ways to take advantage of tough situations (for example, it may be a good idea to use Xu Zhe in battle and as a strategist in order to defeat the likes of Xu Shou and Yuan Shao (with help of his ability to cast tactics well), but you will have to give him top-notch armor. See the screenshots below from my current game.

It will be interesting to see how things go once I reach Wu and Wei. By the time I am in Shu, normally, I?ve been happily saving up experience as I go along, and I sometimes stop to search for good officers. I?m not going to be able to do that this time around. I?ll be creating a feature on this challenge at KMA as well once I am a fair distance into it. :)
Xian Zhu Xuande
ParticipantYeah, it is down. Hopefully back up soon.
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